So you can't put much stock in the shown FlightAware track log data being that accurate.2. There are less than 4,000 feet available for landing. Seems possible that dynamic weather conditions prior to what is captured in the video could have hampered visual obstacle recognition approaching the plant.Kameraone.com's scene video:https://www.kameraone.com/trending-stories/#7568616See also sky condition in this News2 photo:https://idahonews.com/resources/media/a208fbff-8980-455e-84de-b4b81621fe20-medium16x9_KMVT_PHoto.JPG?1649892680255. (Note: BYI METAR winds were 200 at 7 to 8 knots during both approaches. Brittney was preceded in death by her paternal and maternal grandparents, Vera and Ray Infanger and Idell and Don Weeks, and her brother, Earl James E.J. Infanger. Hi, thanks for the info and the link. Source:https://trellis.law/judge/rex.h.minterAirmen registry shows he and Doris BOTH having Commercial Pilot and Mechanic A&P certs, ASEL, Instrument (plus AMEL for him), his last third class med exam 1998, hers 2013. These facts were demonstrated to tragic effect on March 15, 2012. The City is grateful for Mr. Minters public service and we join his family in mourning his passing, the city said in a news release. The plane would have yawed left, stalling the left wing and rolled inverted. Burley is considering a new airport location:https://www.idahostatejournal.com/news/local/burley-ready-to-move-forward-with-new-airport-project-asks-counties-for-support/article_5a0c977c-3015-5dec-bd16-35979dfa8cdf.html, This is probably the hardest commercial flying job around Pilot is the third most dangerous job.Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 58.9https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/27/the-10-most-dangerous-jobs-in-america-according-to-bls-data.htmlRenowned airshow performer Eric Beard also died as a freight dog pilot.https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20060108&slug=webpilot08YouTube https://youtu.be/LivNwDABHdwNTSB https://generalaviationnews.com/2006/09/22/ntsb-cites-pilot-error-in-january-airpac-crash/. With such small margins, even little differences count. It may be tempting to go below the MDA before the VDP at an uncontrolled field, but then again, why do it and risk death? We don't need to be paying for ILS equipment when RNAV approaches allow the same minimums with zero additional ground signal equipment at a fraction of the cost. In her job as Commissioner Doris is in the forefront of efforts to retain the very busy Santa Monica airport which is threatened by a very small but vocal group of neighbors and an unsympathetic City Council. The reported ceilings were well above the MDA, so unless you were sitting in the cockpit next to the pilot, you have no idea if they could make out the runway or not when they passed the MDA. If anyone has photo/video evidence to the contrary, please share.https://youtu.be/fNIsBWj6nok?t=149, Excellent video, probably should cue up for 2:20 and tell folks to set speed to .25 because starting at 2:29 only allowed about two seconds of viewing before it's off to the races. You have nailed it. Flags in front of City Hall will be lowered to half-staff and a City Council meeting in the new year will be adjourned in honor of Minters service.. BTW BOTH pilots on the above A300 reported the runway in sight - when it was hidden by a hill. With Texas Skyway 280HP conversion. The dent in the stack is at the middle of the second from top section of flanged stack piping, a distance of approximately 14 feet below the top of the stack.A C208 gear leg is not 14 feet below the wing, making it non-credible to suggest that the wing cleared the top but the gear leg struck the stack fourteen feet lower down.As for the dive down mistakenly theory - what did she see that looked like the Snake river in front of the threshold? If you are flying on a very cold day, (like Brittney Infanger), and enter a condensate cloud, you will be blinded and lose lift due to the anomaly of stagnant or descending warm air. Since the pilot was already below the MDA in IMC, the combination of snow, cloud, the steam plume, low flight altitude (75 agl), did not allow her to see and avoid the tower.A review of air traffic control (ATC) communication with the pilot revealed the approach controller issued the pilot the current altimeter setting and verified that the pilot had the current weather and notices to airmen reports for BYI. A special automated weather report for BYI about the time of the accident reported 1 mile visibility in light snow and mist Video footage recovered from a security camera located on a processing plant revealed a view of the rooftop of the processing plant, along with a smokestack supported by steel framework on the roof. That, combined with the snow, make it difficult to (1) visually appreciate the actual descent path being flown and, (2) see obstacles that are just protruding in the aforementioned path. (ADS-B granularity in increments of 25 feet altitude, with rounding and accuracy limitations in FlightAware's processed data reduces precision, but attempting to compensate each point for local pressure variation from 29.92 is eliminated by this technique. Date and Time: April 13, 2022, 08:32 Local, Flight Conducted Under: Part 135: Air taxi & commuter - Non-scheduled. A National Transportation Safety Board investigator arrived on the scene on Tuesday. The cause of the crash was disputed: a US investigation concluded that it was an act of murder-suicide by the captain; however, the Indonesian investigators were undetermined. You just get one needle for lateral guidance, some step down altitude restrictions and an MDA. Anonymous said "On a 3 degree glidpath to LPV minimums you are 54 feet above the normal threshold. -- Source links --The accident flight:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220413/1300Z/KSLC/KBYIThe diverted flight on April 12:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220412/1300Z/KSLC/KTWFRaw archive METARs for BYI & TWF, 12 & 13 April:https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/cgi-bin/request/asos.py?station=BYI&station=TWF&data=all&year1=2022&month1=4&day1=12&year2=2022&month2=4&day2=14&tz=Etc%2FUTC&format=onlycomma&latlon=no&elev=no&missing=M&trace=T&direct=no&report_type=1&report_type=2, There wasnt a lot of time for the pilot to set up the second approach prior to the really abbreviated vectors to the final approach. Updated design. Perhaps this was the pilot's first flight to Burley, or an infrequent stop?Other measures for safety and possible fatigue: No snake river or other possible, large visual cue in sight? There is no "glidepath", "decision altitude", "needles" (plural), or any sort of vertical guidance at all. The MDA & displaced threshold is for the obstacles near the approach. Here's a better angle of the stack and ladder that were struck with the right wing where you can see the gash in the stack, and the damaged section of the ladder.https://gray-kmvt-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/Z9XA94vRdq5ABRdEofwGJeK0tGE=/1200x675/smart/filters:quality(85)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/gray/JNAC4GVPRBC7RHHQSIO3P2WAEY.JPGStreet view from US Hwy 30 in June 2019 of same stackhttps://www.google.com/maps/@42.5508056,-113.7581799,3a,60y,310.62h,98.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXjHKzC_zNsmc7-AQYHeIAw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en. Vertical rate was approximately 900 fpm at last point and it appears it hit some silos at a food plant. Brittney had a special connection with her siblings and their children. The left horizontal stabilizer and elevator separated and came to rest about 380 feet northeast of the main wreckage. Even if the tower and building wasn't there and the Bonneville salt flats was in front of the plane she would be touching down in the next 6 seconds. Brittney was a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and served a mission in Birmingham, England from 2015-2017. This is probably why the pilot decided to continue the approach. Brittneys spirit could be felt by all who knew her. Kathryn s Report Cessna 525C Citation CJ4 N614SB Fatal. This mishap shows that regardless of who you are, physics and gravity and speed of impact are no respecter of persons. [1] [2] The cause of the accident is under investigation by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB). Showing those documents as full sheet images before zooming in to a cropped section would be best. Replies. Having survived a Cessna 150 crash into a forest I can attest first hand that shoulder harness' save lives. Burley Airfield should either stop 020 approaches, and/or the "Gem State Potato Processing Plant" should run a pipe up from the Snake River to condense and recover its steam inside the factory, and reposition that isolated lethal stack. Can't tell from pictures if both wings were at crash site. Newer pilot here so my apologies for any ignorance. Second, if ANYTHING needs to be checked up, how about checking up our FEDERAL GOVERNMENT in WASHINGTON with out of control wasteful spending on taxpayer AND borrowed freaking MONEY!!!! The altitudes Flightaware shows are the uncorrected pressure altitudes reported by the aircraft's ADS-B transmitter. In any case, one shouldn't have to look up obstacles in a database and do trig on them to brief a plate. Think logically: If the roof could be seen and descended toward as if it was runway, the Snake river and railroad bridge would be expected to occupy that same view. On 3 October 2021, a Romanian private plane crashed into a building in San Donato Milanese, Lombardy, Italy. If she was trading altitude to maintain airspeed after a flameout, seems like it would be important to get an idea of what minimum airspeed should be maintained, knowing that the stacks were ahead.The TL:DR for the details shown below is that she was holding 89/88 knots airspeed in the 30 seconds or so before stack impact compared to 96 knots across the tater plant on 4 April's RW20 approach.If you were the C208 pilot and had adequate visual of the ground so near, would you have shallowed the altitude trade off and accepted a lower airspeed than 88 knots to squeak over the tater plant?------ Backup info ------To provide a reference on judging whether airspeed decayed in a manner different from what she would have flown normally (acknowledging the sink rates reported in the data), compare speeds by looking at the last two captured data points as she turned across the tater plant during the uneventful 4 April approach to RW20:Using track log data from:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220404/1318Z/KSLC/KBYIMon 09:52:44 AM 42.5539 -113.7523 271 83 96 4,675 -385Map pinned location of that data point:http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5539+-113.7523Mon 09:53:05 AM 42.5501 -113.7611 219 87 100 4,475 -571Map pinned location of that data point:http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5501+-113.7611(The 42.5501+-113.7611 location is approx 670 feet closer to the airfield than the struck stack. The crash happened in shallow surf around 3:15 p.m. A witness captured video showing the Cessna 150A gradually dropping from the sky, hitting the sand and then flipping over not far from beachgoers. Steam enters such drums at 140-180C (284-356F) and 10-12 bar. The ladder going to the top of the stack is in three sections going to three platforms. There is still data needed to determine amount of fuel in tanks. The "airport shouldn't be there"I'm reminded of the jet that took off in CT short runway. (Hot air usually rises!) Remember to embrace and treasure every moment, just as she did. Kathryn's Report: Most Read This Year Cessna 208B Grand Caravan, N928JP: Fatal accident occurred April 13, 2022 near Burley Municipal Airport (KBYI), Cassia County, Idaho Cirrus SR22 GTS, N24LA: Fatal accident occurred May 06, 2022 in the Atlantic Ocean near Tybee Island, Georgia Warm Springs Police Chief Bill Elliott said the Warm Springs Dispatch Center received a report around 2:30 p.m. from Seattle Air Traffic Control of the possible plane crash in the area of the . I think you are attacking the wrong anonymous commenter. A few days later, add 800 million to hurry it up. If the stacks are putting out a bunch of smoke and steam, I can see how you could easily hit them despite them having red anti-collision lighting (according to the obstacle database at least.). She has participated in eight trans-continental air races, and together, they have flown to Alaska, Quebec, Belize, the Florida Keys and 2000 miles around Australia. 0. Easy enough to fact check using Adsbexchange and the LiveAtc recording.Results:-Cleared for takeoff @7 minute mark on LiveAtc-ADS-B shows airborne by @23:08:23Z-Flies along coast, gets halfway to Malibu-No airspeed or altitude trouble so far-ADS-B shows a turnback starting @23:14:00-"I'd like to return" @14 minute mark LiveAtc-ADS-B speed & altitude degrading on the way back-Declares Emergency just before 16 minute mark -ATC offers "left base for runway 3" @17 minute mark-ADS-B shows crossing the pier @23:18:04Simple to listen to comm audio source files for yourself:https://www.liveatc.net/archive.phpThis accident's file is found by selecting:Date: 22 December, Time: 2300-2330Z, Feed: "KSMO Tower #1". Snow was observed falling. Left wing may have been inertia-separated.The wrecked engine bay is visible to the right of the flipped forward pilot's door and the PT-6 air plenum is identifiable in that torn open forward bay wreckage.Kameraone.com's scene video:https://www.kameraone.com/trending-stories/#7568616, For reference, a C208B PT-6 air plenum example photo:https://media.sandhills.com/img.axd?id=7257643989&wid=4326165471&rwl=False&p=&ext=&w=0&h=0&t=&lp=&c=True&wt=False&sz=Max&rt=0&checksum=MwQ%2b3%2fmnuLw%2bzq2hh%2ftYM0KEexS1%2fpTBK5zoSVQPYb8%3d, Active snow fall is captured after the 14 second mark in this video of the crash scene. First, it is sad that we lost such a wonderful young lady who had nothing but love in her heart and who served others selflessly. A quick but not exhaustive search finds this example guidance from a past advisory circular regarding the use of a 24-hour medium intensity flashing white light system:"not recommended on structures within 3 nautical miles of an airport. Sorry, but that's insane.You can pull data all day long from flight records and try to figure out why she did what she did, but the fact remains that a published non-precision LNAV approach that misses a smokestack by 61' is unacceptable. October 10, 2021 9:53am. After being "on" at JAMID, these were the descent angles flown:From JAMID to Data Point "B", angle flown was -4.1From Data Point "B" to Data Point "A", angle flown was -6.5, For comparison of speeds, alts, angle flown, map-pin locations:C208B N585SA flew N928JP's duty/schedule SLC to BYI on 15 April.https://registry.faa.gov/AircraftInquiry/Search/NNumberResult?nNumberTxt=N585SAN585SA's landing 15 April into Burley RW20 in VFR conditions:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N585SA/history/20220415/1339Z/KSLC/KBYIhttps://flightaware.com/live/flight/N585SA/history/20220415/1339Z/KSLC/KBYI/tracklogMETAR during landing:KBYI 151430Z AUTO 27009KT 10SM FEW043 BKN055 OVC080 01/M02 A2992(Note A2992 in METAR, makes reported ADS-B altitudes true)At location 355 feet NEast of JAMID as Data Point 1:Fri 10:33:11 AM 42.5672 -113.7434 216 120 138 4,825 -830maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5672+-113.7434Data Point 2, -225'AltDiff, 3,415' distant from 1 = -3.8Fri 10:33:28 AM 42.5598 -113.7511 219 120 138 4,600 -821maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5598+-113.7511Data Point 3, -350'AltDiff, 5,115' distant from 2 = -3.9Fri 10:33:53 AM 42.5487 -113.7627 217 119 137 4,250 -840maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5487+-113.7627Raw 15 April BYI METAR link:https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/cgi-bin/request/asos.py?station=BYI&data=all&year1=2022&month1=4&day1=15&year2=2022&month2=4&day2=16&tz=Etc%2FUTC&format=onlycomma&latlon=no&elev=no&missing=M&trace=T&direct=no&report_type=1&report_type=2, When substitute C208B N585SA flew N928JP's duty/schedule into BYI RW20 two days after the crash in VFR conditions as detailed above, that pilot maintained 120 knots ground speed plus the headwind at the time resolved from 27009KT at BYI.The 3.8 to 3.9 angle flown by the substitute aircraft on 15 April between JAMID and Data Point 3's 7th avenue at Snake River location was NOT a "clear the potato plant, then dive for the runway" approach.Was the accident pilot accustomed to flying at a lower approach speed into BYI than she would maintain for a longer runway, such as TWF?The divert landing to TWF RW26 on the day before the accident shows 102 knots ground speed in the 27018KT wind there, which is an airspeed of 120 knots at that last data point located approximately 2100 feet distant from the threshold:maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.4805+-114.4631The accident aircraft's 4 April landing to BYI RW20 in VFR conditions showed 87 knots ground speed in the 23009KT wind there at the time, which is an airspeed of 96 knots at that last data point located just after passing over the potato plant: http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5501+-113.7611It is possible that the accident pilot was accustomed to routinely flying the BYI approach at reduced airspeed but experienced diminishing lift at the lower approach speed during the accident approach due to contamination accumulation on flight surfaces that built up during two approach attempts in light snow and mist.She was "on" at JAMID, flew a 4.1 descent angle about halfway to the potato plant, then the descent angle increased to 6.5 in the final 21 seconds on the way to the stack.Links:Diverted flight, 12 April:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220412/1300Z/KSLC/KBYIPrevious N928JP BYI RW20 landing, 4 April:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220404/1318Z/KSLC/KBYI. Don't bust minimums, ladies and gents. Not surprising an elderly person might have difficulty surviving that. The airport instrumentation tells a story regarding what is happening at the airport. "4,000 feet is short for a Caravan? . If the pilot was following the 3.75 deg. We have 789 CESSNA Aircraft For Sale. I just read it and yikes! Better yet, how about a test of your instrument skill set with added emergencies? you think it's unreasonable for a pilot to descend to a standard 3.0 degree glidepath once they have the runway in sight?When the glidepath specified on the approach is 3.75 degrees, yes, yes I do. Look at the Blancolirio video on YT, he shows where they were in relation to the runway. After graduating from ATP, Brittney was a flight instructor at Aero guard, Gem Air, and privately in Salmon, Idaho, and received various flight licenses, including commercial, instrument, multiengine, CFI, CFII, MEI, tailwheel, and seaplane. Subscribe to LALATE on YouTube. Granbury reports they didn't see (post crash): KGDJ 050255Z AUTO 14008KT 5SM BR OVC007 11/10 A3009 RMK AO2 T01050098,M So according to Jepp, the usable runway length is 3,787 feet. It's just the view of residents. Ice forming on the intake cowling constricts the air intake. The plate shows 4,304 so I used that. The case of the young flight school instructor who got bashed against his Cherokee panel comes to mind. About 0832:25, the airplane came into viewAccording to a witness, located about one quarter mile away, he first heard, then observed the airplane descend out of the clouds then immediately went into a steam cloud, . apparently it was marginal vfr below an overcast with one mile vis. The mash adheres to the drums, but is not exposed to the steam inside, and dries. Quick trig (sin 3.75 x 2,639') says that's 173' above the 40' TCH, so 173' + 40' = 213' above touchdown elevation. The stacks are about 2050 feet from the runway end as marked by the threshold bar before the "piano keys" and not including the displaced threshold. A wing collided with a tractor trailer, causing the aircraft to overturn into a tree line next to the road. We also know that this position was too low as thousands of other flights landed on that runway without hitting the stack.The MDH seems much lower than the OVC layer. The comments at Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 2:55:00 AM were debunking the broken "busted minimums" mantra that some armchair NTSB investigators on here are parroting here from their misinterpretation of inprecise FlightAware data. *That's very little margin for error, and that's following the published approach on the plate. Other company pilots: "BYI steam is routine, I can land there just fine"7. Funeral services will also be live streamed at bit.ly/brittneyinfanger. He is an avid aviator, and his wife, Doris, is a member of the Ninety-Nines, the international organization of women pilots." The lateral accuracy code "4" makes the horizontal tolerance of the location +/- 250 feet. The criticism of the deceased pilot rages on well before the preliminary is released and facts are obtained, and usually before the deceased has even been buried. it seems you haven't even bothered to read the prelim report. Verifying that it is the correct stack by mapping the stack coordinates is somewhat of a leap of faith.Let's now work from the 79' and 89' clearances we got from adjusting your calcs by pretending that the nominal FAA elevation numbers were accurate. I'm guessing she was tired and flying in bad conditions, with a wall of steam from those chimneys and a roof cleared of snow by heat, and she mistook the roof for the extended threshold. Do you describe all your male pilots based on their looks? first opened in 1940, and publicly-owned by the CITY OF BURLEY, ID. Last edited: Dec 22, 2021. "That's what you get if capitalism runs unchecked and controls every aspect of public life: commercials, banalities and emotions instead of reason, science and art that make life so much fuller. She went full power and could not arrest her descent and hit the stack. Operating Certificate(s) Held: Commuter air carrier (135), Observation Facility, Elevation: KBYI,4143 ft msl, Distance from Accident Site: 1 Nautical Miles, Wind Speed/Gusts, Direction: 8 knots / , 190, Departure Point: Salt Lake City, UT (SLC), Latitude, Longitude: 42.551433,-113.75969. Here's what's left of the stack in question, at the 2:24 point in the video.https://youtu.be/aRN3RJaW618. If the obstacle surface allowed it, they would have put in an RNAV LPV approach to this airport instead of an LNAV, which would have been just as good if not better than an ILS. WHY? No problem to figure out from the street view image, using the height of the red frame's upper platform yellow guardrail as a measuring reference for the stack and truck bay door openings to figure roof elevation.The stack rises above the roof surface by approximately 20 multiples of the guardrail height. That's not saying it isn't a challenging approach but something else was going on here. "The silos were within TERPS requirements. You sound like a true Ftard! Amazingly, the flight could have succeeded all things else considered.The onus would appear to be on the plant and surrounding politics in this instance. However, this data alone does not provide the basis for a determination regarding the. Are youtube's oracles saying a silo was hit?Silos are adjacent but it was the #16-036731 stack in the obstruction database that was hit. Do you expect a 95-year-old to be able to survive a physical impact of any consequence?? 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